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boothjorden
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This CD, for the first time, collects AC/DC’s studio rarities, many on CD for the first time. These are all of the songs that the band recorded throughout their career that appeared on Australian-only LP releases, movie soundtracks, 7" and 12" single releases, and CD "tour editions", etc. 12 of the 18 tracks are completely unique songs that have all been remastered to match the unparalleled sound quality of the rest of the Columbia AC/DC catalog reissues. The other 6 tracks are the original versions of classic AC/DC songs previously only available on the original Australian albums. Some restore seconds to the original fades, others restore guitar solos and choruses. All are highly sought-after collectibles and have never sounded this good! 1 High Voltage (Original Australian Release) 2 Stick Around 3 Love Song 4 It's A Long Way To The Top (If You Wanna Rock 'N' Roll) (Original Australian Release) 5 Rocker (Original Australian Release) 6 Fling Thing 7 Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap (Original Australian Release) 8 Ain't No Fun (Waiting Around To Be A Millionare) (Original Australian Release) 9 R.I.P. (Rock In Peace) 10 Carry Me Home 11 Crabsody In Blue 12 Cold Hearted Man 13 Who Made Who - 12" extended mix 14 Snake Eye 15 Borrowed Time 16 Down On The Borderline 17 Big Gun 18 Cyberspace Discs Two and Three (live Rarities) ---------------------------------------- Like CD 1, this is a collection of the band’s live rarities from singles, CD pros, compilations and other oddities. All have been remastered from original sources for optimum sound quality. CD 2 ------ 1 Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap (live) (Sydney Festival. 30 Jan.1977) 2 Dog Eat Dog (live) (Apollo Theatre, Glasgow, 30 Apr. 1978) 3 Live Wire (live) (Hammersmith Odeon, London, 2 nov. 1979) 4 Shot Down in Flames (live) (Hammersmith Odeon. London, 2 Nov. 1979) 5 Back In Black (live) (Capital Center, Landover MD, 21 Dec. 1981) 6 T.N.T. (live) (Capital Center, Landover MD, 20 Dec. 1981) 7 Let There Be Rock (live) (Capital Center, Landover MD, 21 Dec. 1981) 8 Guns For Hire 9 Sin City (live) (Joe Louis Arena, Detroit MI, 18 Nov. 1983) 10 Rock 'N' Roll Ain't Noise Pollution (live) (Joe Louis Arena, Detroit MI, 18 Nov. 1983) 11 This House Is on Fire (live) (Joe Louis Arena, Detroit MI, 18 Nov. 1983) 12 You Shook Me All Night Long (live) (Joe Louis Arena, Detroit MI, 18 Nov. 1983) 13 Jailbreak (live) (Dallas TX, 12 Oct. 1985) 14 Shoot To Thrill (live) (Donington Park, 17 Aug. 1991) 15 Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Live (live) (Donington Park 17 Aug. 1991) CD 3 ------ 1 High Voltage (live) (Donington Park 17 Aug. 1991) 2 Hells Bells (live) (Donington Park 17 aug. 1991) 3 Whole Lotta Rosie (live) (Donington Park 17 aug .1991) 4 Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap (live) (Donington Park 17 aug. 1991) 5 Highway To Hell (live) (Tushino Airfield, Moscow, 28 Sept. 1991) 6 Back In Black (live) (Tushino Airfield, Moscow, 28 Sept. 1991) 7 For Those About To Rock (We Salute You) (live) (Tushino Airfield, Moscow, 28 Sept. 1991) 8 Ballbreaker (live) (Plaza De Toros De Las Ventas, Madrid, 10 July 1996) 9 Hard As A Rock (live) (Plaza de Toros De Las Ventas, Madrid, 10 July 1996) 10 Dog Eat Dog (live) ( Plaza de Toros De Las Ventas, Madrid, 10 July 1996 11 Hail Caesar (live) (Plaza De Toros De Las Ventas, Madrid, 10 July 1996) 12 Whole Lotta Rosie (live) (Plaza De Toros De Las Ventas, Madrid, 10 July 1996) 13 You Shook Me All Night Long (live) (Plaza De Toros De Las Ventas, Madrid, 10 July 1996) 14 Safe In New York City (live) (Pheonix AZ, 13 Sept. 2000) Family Jewels DVD 3 -------------------------- VIDEOS Big Gun Hard As A Rock Hail Caesar Cover You In Oil Stiff Upper Lip Satellite Blues Safe In New York City Rock N Roll Train Anything Goes BONUS VIDEOS Jailbreak It’s A Long Way To The Top (If You Wanna Rock ‘N’ Roll) Highway To Hell You Shook Me All Night Long Guns For Hire Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap (live) Highway To Hell (live) BONUS FEATURES The Making Of "Hard As A Rock" The Making Of "Rock N Roll Train" Munich DVD -------------- Introduction Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be Back In Black Stiff Upper Lip Shoot to Thrill Thunderstruck Rock N Roll Damnation What's Next To The Moon Hard As A Rock Bad Boy Boogie The Jack If You Want Blood (You’ve Got It) Hells Bells Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap Rock N Roll Ain’t Noise Pollution T.N.T. Let There Be Rock Highway To Hell For Those About to Rock (We Salute You) Whole Lotta Rosie All of it for the excellent price of $199 + shipping.
suicidehummer
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FUCK YOU COLUMBIA! Let me just go to YT now and listen to just about EVERY song in the boxset...
BrianJohnson888
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I...I have to order this.
jchamern
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There isn't much that is new. Higher quality recordings is the only selling point. Looks like a waste of money to any ac/dc collector.
acdcrocks1
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i HAVE to hear Carry Me Home
BrianJohnson888
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jcharmern, if the selling point is higher quality recordings, how is this a waste of money to a collector? All collectors strive to get the highest quality possible; this is just them giving us what we've asked for.
OleBrumm
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Sorry guys, but the new boxset seems to be for Hardcore fans only and for these hardcore fans there are no real rarities in this (ok, really nice) box included, because there are no special releases just official B-Sides or Australian tracks. The only reason to own this gem is the Munich 2003 DVD and the nice Vinyl (with no special rarities!). And the 20th release (or so) of the making ofs from HAAR and RNRT is just boring. It's a nice box, but the content is just for "hardcore collecting". The content is not worth the 199$ except the Munich 2003 DVD. Reminds me to the Black Ice Box which starts at 50$ and is now at 28$ or so.
OleBrumm
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Oh, an by the way, i don't need higher quality recordings of some tracks, because it's RnR and it must be raw and dirty!!
daclarob
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remember tho' "weve got the best fans in the world.........." yep in this recession I really want to give my hard earned to a millionaire!!!!!!!!!!! Ill pass thanks
RnRDamnation
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C'mon, really... Is anybody REALLY that surprised by the track listing on this box? I'm not sure why they've got the idiot dumbfuck titles of "Studio Rareties" and "Live Rareties". It's like AC/DC have less creativity than those who bootleg them. The idea of the amp itself with a title like "Backtracks" sounds like something a bootlegger would do. Making the amp "real" and "useable" is something a record company would do to boost the price, as they have done. Most of the songs on CD3 and part of CD2 have been available in high quality form for a long, long time - at least as long as the DVDs have been around. If AC/DC's record company firmly believes that nobody has ever ripped the audio from their DVDs to play on their iPods, their level of self-delusion must be higher than originally thought. What we really have (as was 100% predictable upon initial announcement of the box) is a collection of B-sides. It looks like they didn't know what to do with the B-sides, seeing as it made up only about 2.5 CDs, so they "augmented" them with some of the original Aussie recordings of some songs from the early years. Here's an idea: How about you just remaster and release the original Aussie recordings in lovingly detailed digipacks with all of the original artwork? Why this was not done 30 years ago to begin with is beyond me, except that Puritan America apparently wasn't ready for a sex song as funny as Crabsody in Blue but could handle something as blatantly obvious and subtle as a sledgehammer as the dirty version of The Jack. Once again, AC/DC's record company fucks everyone. They're fucking AC/DC by denigrating their legacy with these non-stop shitty boxes and they're fucking AC/DC fans using the exact same technique, but charging us for it. At least we'll have the Munich DVD, but I have to admit that I'm honestly only interested in the audio from it. As comedian Lewis Black says, "Music goes in the EARS; videos go in the EYES!"
daclarob
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well said that man,agree 100%
OleBrumm
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I agree with you RnRDamnation, but i'm interested in the Munich Video because i was there.
mainepuller
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This new set is awesome...no doubt about it. It better be for 200 clams. But they are ripping off the fans by only offering 2 of the new cds in the lower-priced Amazon set. Give me a ****** break.
imma_rocker
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NOOOOO MY B-SIDES!!!!!!!! but am gunna have to get myself this one for quality purposes
daclarob
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TO QUOTE THE GREAT 20TH ENTURY PHILOSOPER LYDON............ "Ever Get The Feeling You’ve Been Cheated?" IF IT AINT BOUT THE CASH NOW ,WHY THF87K WAS DISC3 OF FAMILY JEWLS RELEASED WITH THE ORIGINAL? AND JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY,WONDER IF THE "LIVE" RARITIES ARE GONNA SOUND LIKE THE ORIGINAL B SIDES AT ALL,OR ARE WE GONNA HAVE A WEE TWEAK HERE N THERE ala DONINGTON DVD AND "LIVE" CD? AH WELL, BE WORTH IT FOR THE AWESOME 1 WATT AMP AND PARROT TATTOO!!!
daclarob
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RnRDamnation "Once again, AC/DC's record company fucks everyone." STILL THOUGHT THE YOUNGS ( I.E. MALCOLM) HAD FINAL SAY ON RELEASED PRODUCT, MAKES YOU ASK "WHO'S FUCKING US?"
RnRDamnation
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If Malcolm and Angus are involved, I think it's a matter of incompetence as in they don't really understand the DVD medium and are still stuck on the idea of "bonus tracks" from back in the CD days. Of course, their incompetence is magnified when they begin issuing something issued 100 times before (like the Making of Hard as a Rock video) as a "bonus." It could be they have problems with the English language and don't understand the meaning of bonus, but they did come up with some clever lyrics for Ballbreaker (probably after Rick Rubin had them rewrite their lyrics about 100 times, which probably explains their resentment towards one of the world's best producers who helped them make one of their best Brian Johnson albums), so I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt. They really should talk to Neil Young, Jimmy Page and Gene Simmons about how to do these things properly. It looks as if they're still struggling to catch up to 2001 when it comes to understanding the content-delivery technologies available and how they can be used to bring maximum pleasure to their fans.
RnRDamnation
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Another theory could be that they're lazy. That would explain the string of lazy box releases we've received since Bonfire.
Ammojoe08
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Many good points made about this "new" release... Don't know about you, but I ain't forkin' over the $200 for it. I already have all those tracks from my collection. And sad to say, I won't be forkin' over anymore $$ for concerts untill they do something about this same ole', deflated, played out, no surprises of what they call a setlist. I've been a fan of this band for just over 30 years and I can't believe the day would come where I think that AC/DC is more concerned about making the almighty dollar over playing to the fans (as they have said throughout their entire career- they don't give a shit what the critics say, it's the fans that count!). I still love this band and think they are the greatest band to take the stage... period!! Sorry if I pissed anyone off. I have quietly hoped that they would change the setlist myself, and maybe the time has come for the AC/DC faithful to pound on the door and let them know how we feel. Anyone feel the same??
BrianJohnson888
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Not really too sure where all this animosity suddenly came from towards the band....some of you are spouting off about not understanding the concept of DVD (???) and the concert setlist which has nothing to do with this box set. I'm not sure what more you could possibly want from the band. I imagine they signed off on it, certainly. Clearly the record company did come up with the concept; more than likely from looking at what was out there in bootleg format, and just giving us what most are looking for: the highest quality you can possibly find. Bob Dylan did the same thing; so did the Beatles, and hell, some bands even sell "bootlegs" of all their shows. I'm not saying it's a perfect set. I'd like to see them release complete shows instead of bits and pieces here and there, but it's better than nothing. I know at the very minimum, many of you will download the CDs and DVDs when they're available on the torrents. I don't blame you. I'd do it too if I couldn't afford the set. But since you will download it - and I know many of you will, just tone it down a bit with the bitching. It's hypocritical. Now I'm going to wait until November for my box set to arrive.
cliff
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why all the donington 91 tracks? we have them on DVD and AC/DC live 2 cd version. it still looks pretty kickass, though i thought that 'live rarities' meant something like "live wire " by brian in 82 , gone shootin by bon in 78 etc but i have been looking for a set like this for a while, the 3cd 'ultimate volts' came close, but im happy.
cliff
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oh and 2 more things, You Shook Me All Night Long (live) (Joe Louis Arena, Detroit MI, 18 Nov. 1983) , it is actually the studio version mixed in with a live crowd, listen closely youll hear it. AND $199 ?!?!?!?!?! , all because of some damn amp that im never gonna use! 3 cds and 2 dvds should be no more than $50!!!!!!! gggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
sapator
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Ok.Just wanted to be the last in line here to tell you...I TOLD YOU SO! suicidehummer i would give everything to see your expression when you read the song list :) I'm begging to think the next box set will be Malcolm's hellbilly ditty and Angus piano playing in the studio. P.S. Love the amp, now all i need is an Axe!
sapator
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$239.00!!!!!!!!!!!!! $239.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I haven't payed $239.00 for the most rare cd's i have in my collection (well i have,but). $239.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahh ok, just saw it....IT'S WITHOUT SHIPPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAA! But you get the book.Ahh the book.That i'll probably buy on ebay for 20$ in a year.
erudite
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Weak.
Danger101
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LOL erudites one word sums it up pretty wel, everyone else writes an essay he uses one word Interesting conversation though
daclarob
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kinda confused here, venting our opinions on what is another cash generator, albeit a very pretty one! is hypocritical. now given that it is YOU and I who pay the salaries of the record company,is it not the case that WE have the right to expect high standards for our hard earned? or are we to just be the PLEBS that they assume we are,and buy any old rehashed product because it has a nice box and its been sterilised,oops sorry, remastered to a higher quality? Now me personally, I used to think rock n roll was all bout gettin down n dirty,bare bones good tunes as opposed to the high fidelity accorded to classical music,but I guess I was wrong. Never once have I took a general potshot at any individuals viewpoint on this forum,I may disagree as is my right,but I respect everyones right to have their opinion. As for being Hypocritical.. if I am feigning the beliefs,virtues or feelings that I do not hold or possess, then accuse me alternatively.. accept the fact that I have the right to say as a fan of 30 years or so whos seen em more times than I care to imagine, ITHINK THE DAY HAS COME TO MAYBE FINALLY ADMIT THAT AC/DC ARE TIRED AND JUST BOOSTING THE RETIREMENT FUND. I WILL ALWAYS STAND BY THE FACT THAT THEY WERE ONE OF THE GREATEST LIVE BANDS EVER TO STEP ON STAGE,BUT ITS JUST TOO "VEGAS" FOR ME NOW, Sorry if you dont agree,but there ya go,its great to live in a democracy innit?
Longtooth
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Got to admit - I'm disappointed with this release. Its ludicrously, stupidly expensive. There's a lot of needless padding and useless content - who really needs the guitar amp? - to bulk the price up. They seem to forget, fans like the music. Thats what we listen, not the other stuff. Stick out the 2DVD, 3CD package at a lower price, without all the other stuff I'll never read, or use, and I'd be tempted. As it is, AC/DC have priced themselves out of the pockets of a lot of fans who would want this, myself included. I'll have to settle for the standard version ; the live b-sides on disc 3 i've got on the BSides of the CD singles anyway, and most of the other tracks are on the No Bull & Donington DVDs anyway. So the key selling point for a lot of us is Munich 2003 DVD, and im sure You'll be able to find a download or filesharing copy soon after release. So ultimately, everyone loses. The band don't sell the product the fans don't get the music, and everyone else gets it for free. All for the sake of greed. Its a shame, because ive been looking forward to a release like this for 20 years. But I'm not going to be ripped off. Who is? Very few people, I expect. http://www.thefinalword.co.uk/content/view/855/25/ sums up my views very well. Mainly because I wrote it!
daclarob
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Longtooth justread your blog post and gotta agree, my 3 yr old aint really fond of eating cardboard either, so theyve made my choice for me. good writing tho'
suicidehummer
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Sap, my face was excited watching the videos, until I saw the actual songlist... then I would have to call it pity. I pity what AC/DC has become. We get an okay album at best that could have been great with a better producer and a little guidance from George, then we get a 2+ year long tour with ~1% setlist variation... now this. How can they get away with calling this shit "unreleased" when they tell you what B-side every song was on? They took the No Bull audio from the SUL Tour Edition... NOT RARE. They gave us some Donnington performances which have been released several times as audio AND video... I don't know if any of you guys play guitar, but maybe you've heard about Gibson teaming up with Authentic Hendrix to release some shitty Strat copies recently? Well, they've been reeling from the backlash ever since they announced it. Maybe if Columbia gets wind of how pissed we are, they'll finally feel shame...
erudite
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This is almost as bad as when Bonfire came out. That was about 10 years before I used the internet, so I was filled with anticipation about 5 new CDs of unreleased Bon Scott material that I kept reading about in magazines. When it finally came out I was very disappointed to see that the "unreleased" material included Back in Black, and audio from a concert that had been available on an officially released VHS tape for 10 years. Most everyone who likes the band enough to pay $200 for this already owns all these recordings. I hope to be able to get Family Jewels 3 separately, and I am interested in hearing high quality recordings of Fling Thing, Carry Me Home and anything else that I only have as a vinyl rip, but there's no way I'm shelling out $200.
suicidehummer
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But at least Bonfire had volts... I can't imagine the band is completely innocent through ignorance... even if they're just not taking an interest in what goes into the boxset, it's a crime. Columbia gets richer, AC/DC gets richer, and the fans take it in the ass yet again... I don't know about you guys but after Family Jewels, Plug Me In, and the "Deluxe" Black Ice CD with incorrect lyrics... I'm not going to be caught with my pants down yet again.
boothjorden
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Bonfire wasn't $200 either. I want Family Jewels dvd 3, the Munich dvd and the higher quality studio "rarities". Other than that I won't bother, I have a guitar amp, I have 3 fucking Marshal half stacks. I don't need the amp, I could do with out the so called live "rarities" but the book also seems interesting. I guess something I can borrow off a buddy of mine who's getting it.
calli
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I won't be shelling 200 sobs out for it, that's for sure. Hell, Lloyd fuckin Christmas wouldn't buy that one. Herein lies the problem. With so many fans, and so many shows available (arguably as two seperate bands/ fanbase), what exactly do you do when it comes to releasing older/ 'rare' material? For every person (ie; me) that wants, say, Glasgow '77 or any other pro-recorded Bon show mixed and released, someone will bitch that Largo '81 or any other Jonna show of their choice didn't get the same treatment. Compilations they have released recently have done exactly what they were intended to do, ie; try and cater to all the spectrum of fans, keep the band popular, and keep making money with as little overheads as possible. Hence, both 'periods' are covered in just about every release. It's up to you whether you bite. If you are the type of collector who just has to have anything that comes out, regardless of cost,material choice, or quality, then you'll be the type happily pouring over your unpublished lithos and replica posters, or, alternatively, squirming whilst watching Jonna struggle to sing songs HE wrote during the highly embarrasing FOTS rehearsals (one bit of footage that should have remained unseen, imo.) etc. For me, AC/DC (and by association, their record co's) are prime examples of a corporate behemoth who's fans seem far more worthy of the custody of their music, rather than the band, or record company, themselves. But that just goes back to my earlier argument, what do you put out besides the obvious? Just how many folk would buy, say, the Munich 2003 gig, remixed/ mastered/ packaged/ marketed solely on it's own, as a stand alone release? Probably not as many as would buy the 'cater for all' type of boxsets that have something from all periods in the band's history that appeals to every type of fan. That's what it boils down to. It's shit, but there you go. It's a basic and strategic record company ploy. It's not called the music 'business' for nothing. Was I pissed that it took twenty six years to get a copy of 'Go Down' without a fade, or to hear the Atlantic Studios set in stunning quality? fuck yeah, it's my sixth pressing of LTBR, but i'm happy now I don't have to listen to the 'old' version. Maybe in another ten years, i'll hear the last however many bars of any other tune you can think of that fades out when they're 'remastered' and re-released in another ten years, only to be charged another twenty bucks for a job that probably should have been done right maybe not first time, but second or third at most. (Doesn't say much about the mastering engineers they're paying though, does it)? 'Recording agency vendetta' you ask?, damn right! Tell you what guys, hows about shipping all your multi's over to my studio and i'll gladly spend the rest of my life giving your material the care, love and attention to detail it so richly deserves. To be released, unedited, in full chronological order, with detailed info liners, high quality covers, through yer own dedicated website if need be, month by month, at a sensible cost, devoid of record company interference, 'til the well is dry. F.O.C. Answers on yer, still, unplayed copy of Fly On The Wall, please. I'm A Rebel? Not tonight, Josephine. Rant over. Out.
RnRDamnation
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It's not even a matter of the Bon era vs the Brian era because on the whole, an AC/DC fan is an AC/DC fan no matter who's doing the singing. It's a matter of the record company saying, "Let's throw together a bunch of B-sides and then add a bunch of crap on top of it to boost the price," and then not even doing that well. I always thought AC/DC were a band that cared about their legacy, but product-wise, they're really scarring it badly with all of these shitty, hastily put-together boxsets which have little to nothing to offer of any value to their fans. calli is right about one thing, though: If any band should have a fan collective to remaster and distribute treasures from their back catalog, it is AC/DC because unlike Jimmy Page, Neil Young, David Gilmour and Gene Simmons, they only seem to do it exactly wrong and deliver a slap in the face to their fans with each of their hastily produced, barely mastered, overhyped and over-useless-productized boxes. Fans, at least, would do it right. The only method we have of rebellion is with our pocketbooks. Sure, I'd like to hear the remastered versions of Carry Me Home and Crabsody in Blue, but do I need to pay $200 for them? Hell no. And while those who would like to argue "hypocrisy" based on the hypothesis that I will download the tracks anyways, this argument falls apart the minute you realize that I want to pay for the MUSIC, not for the STUFF. I did download Black Ice the month before it was released on the primitive CD format, but because I like the band and I do want them to get their royalties I did end up buying a copy of the CD a few months down the road (which I then gave away as a Christmas present). However, this box and the last few box and DVD sets are unconscionable. The "comprehensive Director's Cut" of No Bull? What was comprehensive about it? How was that not a money-grab? How was the initial DVD not a money-grab? It was pretty much admitted as such when they issued the "Director's Cut" DVD in the first place. They basically came out and said, "Well, Mallet had to cobble it together in a hurry so we could put out the DVD, so now we've given him a chance to put it together a little less hastily so that we can talk you out of even more of your money." Plug Me In? Well, I've said more than enough about that shitbox in other forums. If they had done it properly and "comprehensively", it could have been a beautiful thing - even two or three beautiful things a la "Kissology", but instead it was a steaming pile of terrible sounding, terrible looking donkey crap (except St. Albans - there's no way that could have been fixed). Instead of contacting the original sources for the videos (ie - the Tokyo 1981 vid) and paying for the rights to them, it seems they sourced the same bootlegs we've been sourcing all this time, put them on a DVD - fractured performances and all (What Do You Do For Money Honey, anyone?) and told us that their shit doesn't stink, so we should pay for it. To end, I will quote AC/DC lyrics back to them: So stop your love on the road All your digging for gold You make me wonder Yes I wonder, yes I wonder Honey, whaddya do for money? Honey, whaddya do for money? Yeah, whaddya do for money honey, how you get your kicks? Whaddya do for money honey, how you get your licks?
jchamern
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How would you tell your wife that you just spent $200+ shipping on music that you had already.
daclarob
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WellI still love my AC/DC, more so Bon,but thats my preference,but it would appear that the general concensus is... ITS A PRETTY BOX BUT SHIT IN A BOX IS STILL SHIT IN A BOX! Possibly,given their age, a sad swansong,but there again we may be wrong,maybe in the current financial climate young Angus needs a few quid for the builders over in Holland!!
sapator
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1981 Japan remastered, 2003 hammersmith, Let there be rock movie in DVD quality, I'm a rebel(come on).Yes i agree even an average fan could make a better box set. And i'll tell you again, if they come to Europe with the same setlist then i'm done with them.Ok maybe one attendance on the 2012 tour and will download the 2011 album.Fuck i never thought i'll be pissed with Mal and co.Νot pissed..What is the word in English...mmm....Νonchalant.I think that's it.I don't give a rats ass anymore.1 or 2(if they change the list dramatically) gigs left and i'm out. They are fuckin the hardcore fans that always stood by them. I'll just have the memory of the 2000-2001 tour that i had a stupid smile on my face after the gigs and thought that AC/DC live for their fans.
dailydoseofacdc
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I replayed the Malcolm interview by the contest winner and it seems he wasn't aware there were any DVDs in the box set so what does that tell you? Unless Sony changed their business model to include sales of amplifiers whoever called the shots on this one should lose his job when the sales figures come in. My biggest concern is dismal sales for this fiasco will discourage future sales of what we really want - full shows. As for the musical content I would gladly buy Circus Krone and the studio CD and maybe FJ3. As for the live CDs I don't mind paying for something I have on bootleg but I object to buying something I paid for previously. I bought Family Jewels for ten dollars just for Show Business (I had all the others) and I was delighted PMI gave me enough new stuff to make me glad I bought it even though I swear some of my boots are better quality. But they better start selling these items separately or they are going to get stuck with a lot of discs. And amps.
RnRDamnation
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They didn't lose money on Bonfire, Plug Me In or No Bull "Comprehensive", so I don't think they're going to lose money on this. Sure, the real fans are getting screwed, but to the casual fan this box probably looks pretty awesome.
Patrick_Ronacher
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@ sap dont forget the 2003 shows to there where surprise songs to that no though they would do. But I agree with you sap. I hope they change the setlist. And hopefully they start in october with the setlist change. If dog eat dog was really the only old they brought in I´ll bite my ass off.
InAPlaceFarAway
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This sucks!! First my hometown show gets canned then this box. No fault to the band. Brian can't help it and the record company just wants to cash in.
Patrick_Ronacher
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Country: Austria


best example for the record company is jonny cash. i wonder how many american man cds they will release. or afterJacksos death. so many cd releases about his earlier recordings. @ sapator If they really would release the AC/DC version of I am rebel i couldnt be happy about that, cause its more an Accept song for me. Cause Accept made it there own hymn.
sapator
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Yes but i don't say that I'm a rebel will be better with AC/DC but if they proclaim "rare" stuff then release "rare" stuff. I'm a rebel, the unfinished tracks on albums, i don't care, just stop mocking us.
Patrick_Ronacher
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Nah i wasnt mocking I just said my oppinion about the song. I would be surprised to if they realese AC/DC version And I would listen it. Sorry that it turned out the wrong way
ruddisgod667
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Num Posts: 328
Country: US


I hope all of you that are bagging on this box set aren't thinking that everyone in the world has heard these songs. AC/DC isn't aware that this website and other websites like this one commonly throw around these shows. The mainstream fan probably has never heard of Rock In Piece or Stick Around. AC/DC is most likely thinking about the mainstream fans or the hardcore fans that don't have these songs. I've read a huge part of these posts and everyone has said that it's a waste for them to come out with these songs because we've all heard them. Go out and find someone who wears a AC/DC shirt and ask them do they know Rock In Piece or Stick Around. If they do, congrats on their part. If not, then you found the kind of fan that AC/DC is most likely trying to reach with these songs. And they are trying to get the hard core fans that have all these songs to buy this for the copy merchandise, the book, and the amp. It's probably not the greatest idea in the world but it can't hurt to bring your AC/DC collection closer to being complete.
calli
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Country: United Kingdom


Disagreed. Releasing a collection of B-sides is NOT aimed at a mainstream fan, imo. Most 'fairweather' fans won't care if they have a copy of 'Carry Me Home', good song n'all but there was a reason it's a B-side. Most hardcore 'DC fans will have already sourced these songs from the interweb, or from original releases, so they are essentially paying $200 for anything but music, save the Circus Krone DVD. You have, however, hit the nail on the head with your last sentence. 'Closer to complete' is about as good as ANY AC/DC collector will come to a 100% complete collection. Unless you are a (Oz especially) fan from the earliest period and up, the chances of owning all the official stuff available is rarer than rocking horse shit. FWIW, the first LP I owned was the Oz version of DDDDC, I had no idea for months that there was a Euro version without Jailbreak or R.I.P. Most other hard to get tracks were available on import from any half decent record store. (Sleeves in Falkirk, remember that Daclarob?)
RnRDamnation
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Country: Canada


It seems all the Original Australian Mix tracks would have been much more well placed at the end of the Volts CD. Volts seems to suffer from the same problem as every other AC/DC "rareties" issue: They've got enough for about half a CD and then the rest is filler. The first few songs on Volts made perfect sense and suffered from an overwhelming level of awesomeness, those songs being the early versions of Whole Lotta Rosie, If You Want Blood, etc. After that, AC/DC seems not to have known what to do to fill up the remaining 40 minutes, so they popped a bunch of filler on top of the disc. The "She's Got Balls" B-Side from the 1986 "You Shook Me All Night Long" single makes much more sense on this package rather than Volts, while the Australian mixes of High Voltage, etc make much more sense at the end of Volts than on this CD set rather than the hastily-tacked-onto-the-end-of-the-CD standard version of It's A Long Way to the Top with the "bonus, hidden" interview segments which filled the remaining three minutes. This band really has no fucking clue how to handle their legacy, do they?
Patrick_Ronacher
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I agree with you RnRDamnation. But I think the Volt CD was a try to make a bon tribute album, with songs that he liked. I can understand that you wish that there would be some other tracks on it to.
RnRDamnation
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Pretty weak tribute album, if you ask me. As a matter of fact, the whole box was a pretty weak tribute to Bon.
calli
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Country: United Kingdom


Dunno about weak, Volts is a screamer bar the standards on the end, and the LFTAS set always did deserve to be given the proper treatment (they still couldn't fix the fucked up snare tho). However, I am at a loss as to why the Paris '79 gig was re-done for this set. To my ears, it's not one of their better gigs. Not to say it's terrible, but the venue seems too big for the sound they had at that time. The opening number ruined by the fact that Cliff's bottom string is flatter than a flat thing on holiday in flatland, & Angus' guitar sounds pure shit right up until it finally splutters to a halt midway thru Rosie. Bon looks and sounds pretty knackered as well, clutching his sides thru GGR, he's hurtin' man! It's only saved by kick ass versions of 'Rocker' & LTBR. A proper repro of IYWBYGI should have been first choice. There is NO better example of AC/DC live.
RockerBon
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Country: US


Back Tracks is a HUGE disappointment! I will not be purchasing this for $200.00
ANGUS_BEEF
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Country: US


I am dissapointed as well - I can understand for the ave AC/DC Fan the missing Aus tracks are great. The Full Concert is a good addition. What pisses me of is the Madrid and Detriot Tracks that I already bought being added again just to bring the $ up.
sapator
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First of all Patrick_Ronacher the comment i made was not for you.Peace. Second.If you look at the box set then you will realize that this time the company made 5-6 disks so in the end they would finally made a good (at least) collection...And they failed again.I mean , wtf do they have in their brains?Shiite?
erudite
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Num Posts: 169
Country: US


What's really disappointing is that once again they fill up space on a box set with audio from material already available on an officially live video. And this time, it's one that they have already released twice!
TheACDCDoctor
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Num Posts: 607
Country: US


great box set and all, but if you go to the backtracks site and listen to the song samples for donington, moscow, and madrid, they sound like the material from the rereleased videos (i.e., different sound.) they don't sound like the original b-sides at all. plus there's no "the jack" from donington, and "back in black" and "let there be rock" from madrid, either. and the aussie versions of "dirty deeds," "ain't no fun," etc.? you can already find those on the atco 1994 remastered CDs of the american albums.
Ulsterman46
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Num Posts: 142
Country: United Kingdom


Disappointing. 29 live tracks and only 7 haven't been released, the rest have been released on live, iywb, bonfire etc. I would like new live tracks that I'm not going to hear by the looks of it like Stiff Upper Lip and the other tracks the played on past tours and never played again
The Cody
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Num Posts: 177
Country: US


I'm gonna buy it for the amp, family jewles d3, The vinal and DVD (need as many as I can get) Still seem like much though. It could be worse, they could be kiss with 1000+ merch that is everything from dipars to coffins. I'm glad I'm not as die hard for kiss as I am for AC/DC
suicidehummer
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Country: US


To all the people who say only hardcore AC/DC fans will have heard these songs: How hardcore do you have to be to do a YouTube search for "acdc rare"???


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