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In The Beginning Vol. 1 + 2
Anyone willing to trade a copy of the CD-R of the new Mar 74 Dave Evans era show? I'm not interested in owning the vinyl. If you're interesting in making a trade I'll make it worth your while. If you're looking for lossless Bon era shows let's talk...hundreds of other audio and video to pick from...AC/DC and many others to offer.
No one is allowed to trade it/share it. This rule was set forth by the people making the vinyl and the sellers. Sorry.
To the Riff Raff This is a load of horseshit. What happened to the "by the fans, for the fans" mentality? So now all of a sudden since something is extremely rare, I guess that it is OK to 1. Make vinyl reproductions for profit at $60 a pop if I remember the price correctly 2. Purposely keep it out of the hands of the AC/DC fans who simply want a cd-r copy instead of the hundreds of AC/DC bootlegs out there that we have been trading all along. BigNate, If the above is true, I am sadly disappointed to learn that you have condoned such behavior and originally allowed the seller to advertise on your main page. Making money off of the band and not sharing the material goes against every principle that we have set forth in the trading community. I, too, have been actively looking for this bootleg but I am more saddened that this possibly is taking place per acdcussr's post. It is true that people do make money off of some bootlegs originally. However, once they get circulated that profit ends up being minimal considering the amount of people who own the bootleg virtually for free by trading. No one is going to retire by selling AC/DC bootlegs and the band is not really losing money for their talent. Especially traded "homemade" audience recordings as you know that are NOT "official" bootlegs that are printed and made by various companies What if only 60 vinyl copies of "Jurassic Rock" or "Flies On The Soundboard" for example were only available and forbidden to trade or share? How would anyone get bootlegs? I usually just try to post AC/DC information/news or my opinion about the BOTM on your website in a positive manner but this information outraged me so I apologize if this post is harsh but damn I am angry. Awaiting your thoughts.
It's not me who decided it, I was just that anyone who buys it isn't supposed to share it. Now, yes, I wished it would be shared, because not everyone has the 60 or 70 bucks to shell out for a bootleg. I think the reason they don't want it shared is because they will probably resell it in about 5 or 10 years. If people share it, there goes their profit. And theres only 200 copies, how is that supposed to be good for AC/DC fans? Letting only 200 people who've got to pay to hear a bootleg? Think: if you had to buy every bootleg you downloadedk, on the hub or elsewhere, you'd have no money.
ACDCUSSR, I know that you did not decide it. Of course I am not blaming you. Did you purchase a copy? If yes, did they specifically tell you not to share it? If no, who told you that this was the rule? If I still had my record player, I would have bought the copy, patched the record player into my computer and I would have made the mp3's to share. I would not allow them to tell what I can or cannot do with a bootleg when I am paying $60 for it. P.S. what happened to the acdc-downloads.cjb.net site? I don't see the place where people share AC/DC stuff anymore. I only see AC/DC General, News, and Offical Media sections + all the other great bands sections. Did you guys stop the uploading and downloading sharing section or am I just smoking crack and not able to find it since the site looks different? Awaiting your reply. Peace out. Scotty from Detroit
When I get my hands on it, I am going to share or trade it with anyone who wants it. I may even put it on dimeadozen. I've never sold a bootleg in my life, AC/DC or any other band.. Don't know if it accomplishes anything, but I've reported about 100 or so bootlegs on ebay. Yes, including that new AC/DC one. End of subject........
acdc74: the vinyl comes with a CDR of the show, so you could just rip and share!
acdcussr, I did not order it nor am I going to order it. I will wait for someone to share it like all the bootlegs that we all get. The cost was ridiculous and quite frankly this bootleg should have been shared eons ago instead of people hording it. Did you order it or have it already?
"When I get my hands on it, I am going to share or trade it with anyone who wants it. I may even put it on dimeadozen. I've never sold a bootleg in my life, AC/DC or any other band.. Don't know if it accomplishes anything, but I've reported about 100 or so bootlegs on ebay. Yes, including that new AC/DC one. End of subject........ " whoa bud, don't do that or else there will be consequences if the seller finds out
No. I can't afford to buy it anymore. I emailed you about the acdc-downloads.cjb.net site from this site, so check whatever account you use for this one.
"whoa bud, don't do that or else there will be consequences if the seller finds out" are you talking about nightprowler? if he does find out, he'll tell the person making it and tell him not to relase volume 2. one problem: the full show is on CDR. but there may be other non-releases due to sharing it.
waah ,waah, waah is all i'm hearing here. look,if YOU spent the $ & YOU put in the hard work & YOU were the only person who was able to make such a thing happen,YOU wouldn't want it just given away either & YOU know it.there are lots of boots out there that u can still trade with,so please,stop all your belly aching,you sound like a bunch of little babies. and,u think that $60-70 is bad? hell,they being sold for alot more then that on ebay for the past week now,so say what u want about the price that was on here,it was more then fair & i would know,i spent WAY more then that on most of my collection.
nightprowler, Bootlegs>By the fans, for the fans. There should not be a profit made off of the band. Period.
Everyone brings a good argument to the table. especialy night prowler, but there are rules and stipulations to owning certain shows, but you just cant stop some people these days.
well I think If your putting alot of time and money into making 200 records and cd's then you have a right to tell the people not to trade it. and $60-70 isn't alot of money considering it's an ac/dc item that you'll probably have untill the day you die.
"Bootlegs>By the fans, for the fans. There should not be a profit made off of the band. Period. " yep,i agree,but somehow costs have to be covered somehow now don't they? it's not like I am asking $140 buy it now on ebay or even $125 like some other people are on ebay,i been more then fair with the whole thing,so if u don't see it that way,tough shit for you then,i don't care. when u go & find a show,spend the $ on the master tape,take the time to re master it, & then press up some vinyls of it,let me know just how much it would cost YOU a piece to just regain what u put out to do it,until then,shut the hell up.
Nightprowler, That's your decision to remaster and press vinyls of the recording. You could have remastered the tapes using whatever program you use for virtually no cost right? Then, you could have been a true fan and provided free tradeable .shn, flac or mp3 etc. etc. files on the hub for example and you could have made pressed vinyl copies for the collectors who want that sort of thing. Telling people that they cannot share the bootleg that they purchased is ridiculous. If I were to buy a car from you, would you tell me when I could drive it? If you are selling 200 records for example, then why would you care if the concert is being traded after you sell out your lot? Answer, because you want to make even more money at another time in the future with another pressing. This of course would lower the value since more and more pressings are available. A lot of the people on the hub agree with me and have sent instant messges telling me so after reading my posts. I am sure more people will start posting on here in the near future expressing their opinion that agrees with the true AC/DC spirit of "by the fans, for the fans". I know a lot of people who would like to get their hands on this recording but are upset that it is not available in tradeable or downloadable form since it is being held hostage. Your comments about belly aching like babies, tough shit for you and shut the hell up were not too cool. We are trying to have an adult conversation here. We are all AC/DC fans who just love the band and we have a little bootleg family here so there is no reason to be so touchy.
well,first of all,i didn't make it,i never said i did,i just get them & then help others out aquiring them. so much for me making $ on them later,huh??? it wouldn't be up to me to make more ,would it? as for that hub thing,i guess you don't pay attention to everything on here. I HATE THE HUB!!!! dumbest thing i ever seen & heard of,a bunch of worthless mp3 & other stuff. there's nothing collectable about any show from a downloaded source,NOTHING!!!!!! sorry,but that's how i feel about it,it worthless.i been collecting WAY b4 the internet was around & believe that anything worth anything as a collectable isn't downloaded.the hub is a joke,always was to me,always will be. now as for all the other people u know complaining about it,again,sorry,but i don't care. u don't see me bitching about some of the shows available on your precious hub & trading lists wishing someone would make it into vinyl or an acetate or whatever,do you? & if i did ,would any of you care? easy answer,no you wouldn't. so that really doesn't bother me what all the others got to say. i'm not trying to be ignorant here,it's just the way it is ,like it or not.
I agree with most of that except, that I honestly think its a bit much $ I understand clearly but really, I'd be asking for more like 30- 40 bucks or something like that, but really think about it 60$ for a couple of vinyls, I dono, but I have seen higher prices than this so, really in a good way since this is a rare vinyl its worth the money
nightprowler, I do pay attention to the posts and I have seen your opinion about the hub in previous postings. I don't agree with it but that is your opinion and I respect that. I am 36 and I have been an AC/DC fan since 1979. I used to go to every record store looking for only one thing, any rare, 7", 12", bootleg, 45 with rare B-sides etc. etc. that I could find of AC/DC stuff. I see that you are also from the U.S.. As you know, it is very difficult to find such things in the U.S.. If we lived in France for example, getting bootleg albums and other goodies is extremely easy. When I was younger, I was always looking to get Powerage with Cold Hearted Man for example and it was too costly when I was young because the only way you could get it was if you bought the imported AC/DC boxset which included the European Powerage version I believe + I think that I may have seen it only 1 or 2 times in my life at various independent record stores. I have always looked for AC/DC stuff at record stores where imports and bootlegs would be available. I have been doing this since 1979 when the Highway To Hell album changed my life. I would not go to regular record stores because they never carry anything different than the regular AC/DC albums. I did manage to find some stuff growing up like a 45 of She's Got Balls Live, the Australian record releases of High Voltage, TNT, DDDDC and Let There Be Rock. I have the maxi single of Touch Too Much with the live versions of Live Wire and Shot Down In Flames, Let's Get It Up 12" with Back In Black and TnT live on the flip side, Nervous Shakedown with RARANP, Sin City and This House Is On Fire Live. There is other stuff that I have as well and I am not going to name everything but my point is I have always looked to try and get whatever rare AC/DC stuff I could obtain. For me, the hub has been the best thing since sliced Wonderbread because I used to be a Napster freak back in 1999 - 2002 when Napster was actually cool and free. Before the government started cracking down. I did manage to get some AC/DC bootlegs (of course they are in the dreaded mp3 format) but I was also able to get all the songs that I read about over the years that I was always looking for. Snake Eye, Down on the borderline etc. etc. The hub for me has provided nearly 300 bootleg AC/DC shows that I would never be able to get anywhere else. I understand that you are a collector but there is no way that every show is available in a record/cd bootleg form for example. Call me obsessed (I am by the way), but I try and get every little bit of AC/DC possible. From the shittiest of recordings to a perfect soundboard recording.
Rockin' In The Parlour is available inline : http://www.acdc-archives.net/audio/74.htm Big thanks to Sydney. Fanch
You rock Fanch. You rock Sydney. Sound quality is poor and the vocals are very hard to hear but it's still AC/DC so a great big thank you to you guys. Scotty from Detroit \m/
Anyone who has the vinyl: nothing will happen now if you share it, the decision has already been made. They know about the sharing and aren't releasing the new master tape that they would've if it wasn't shared.
So we can thank Fanch and Sydney for ruining it for those who followed the rules and didn't share it like instructed
Ruining what? oh no, now nightprowler can't release his precious mastertape to make even more money.
Who cares I thak him so much, who cares if you can't get the mastertape, it's only time before its release, hes not just ganna keep it to himself... someone will buy it from him if they set the right price! Thank you Fanch SOOOOO MUCHH!
I will wade into this a little further tonight. It is sure to infuriate some but this is naught my intent and I will avoid reference to anyone by name. I want to piece together a reasonably sound argument however and I shall give it a go. Till then, Cheers. a_H
Hi all, Is there anyone who wants to share the cd-r with me. I have lots of audio / vcd / dvd stuff with full artwork each, to trade. Thanks for answering me.
Jailbreak, I am sharing the files in the Superbayman hub under the screen name acdc74. I don't have the entire 2 Volumes completed yet. I got these since Fanch was so kind to share with the community instead of people who like to make money off of the band.
I totally argee with acdc74 no one should ever have to pay for a bootleg they are made by fans for the fans. any bootleg l ever record is dependly going to be free no matter how rare it is no fan should ever have to pay for a bootleg
Where's the rest of it? I'd like to hear the whole thing. I was thinking if this show exists (how could it not, it always bothered me that no one recorded the great AC/DC for the first 2 years they existed) then there must be more recordings from 1974 and 1975. Perhaps they will release these in the future.
for anyone who has broadband and wants it for free www.dimeadozen.org lossless, not mp3 no, I didn't put it up there...
I have it the whole thing 1 and 2 if anyone wants to trade.
The version on dimeadozen is copied from Dave's original tape, so it's not from a copy of In The Beginning... which means that it has not been remastered. Still, the full show in lossless format is awesome.
I'm now sharing it on the hub. True, it needs a good deal of work; you can just barely hear Dave for the majority of the songs. Maybe Jack Death would be able to clean it up?
wow....lots of big arguments on both sides but my overall opinion is that no matter if it's a bootleg, it's not meant for you to make profit off it so if you are making profit out of it, then you are ripping the band off no matter what. nightprowler: we know you hate the hub, but please keep your opinions to yourself, remember someone has to start somewhere and the hub is the ideal place to go for AC/DC fans to start collecting bootlegs
I'm now sharing it on the hub in both FLAC and MP3. Just log on and get it!