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Tired of it
Im tired of people giving Brian shit because they love bon. Good for you people but brian is acdc's singer now and you have to except that. People say that brian singing bon songs on this tour is a disgrace and that good songwriting died with bon i strongly disagree with both statments. You can agree or disagree but i want to hear what everyone thinks
Without Brian acdc wouldnt have made it big either with bon maybe one or two more good albums but would have disappeared by the late 80's early 90's
I am sick of it as well. they have to except that bon is dead. and Brian is no Bon, but he is what they have. Personally I think Brian is better, he has a rawer voice, and sings alot more about sex than bon did.
They both are/were great singers for the band and each brings their own unique flavor to great rock and roll songs. the fact that this argument occurs proves that they both are great.
same here, im on youtube seeing acdc vids, and there's allways a punk saying whos better, it's seriously annoying. they are both good, AND if they dont like brian there saying bon has crappy taste, because in an intervew with angus he said bon told him if he died brian would be a no brainer for his stand in.
I'm with you, I'm a real fan of AC/DC and I love their music but we have to stop the comparison between two singers, they have different personality and sorry but the Bon's era has gone and we have to accept it we can't bring him to life again, now Brian is the frontman and he has kept the band united for almost 30 years. Bon and Brian were/are the best for AC/DC Bon we won't forget you and Long Live to Brian
Well, Brian must be doing something right...He's been their singer for nearly thirty years. The biggest difference between the two I think was the subject matter in their writing. Bon wrote more about clawing his and the bands way to the top and Brian wrote more about the success of the band and remaining at the top. So it gels as a natural evolution of the band. I would disagree though that Bon would have been a possible reason that the band would have broke up if he had lived in the 80's or 90's. After Highway To Hell they were on their way to success whether Bon had lived or died. The only arguement that I believe could hold any merit in that regard is that Bon wasn't as easy to control as Brian is. If Malcolm and Angus had tried to take away Bon's right as the singer to write the lyrics the way they did to Brian, than I believe Bon would have quit and went solo.
I can see how some of AC/DC's fans don't like the direction that the band took when Brian joined. There was a distinct shift in style. I believe that those fans should direct less of their anger at Brian and more of their anger at Bon for drinking himself to death. Bon was a one of a kind, and now he is gone and is never coming back. All the complaining in the world isn't going to change that. You've also got to wonder if their follow-up to Highway to Hell (it obviously wouldn't have been called Back in Black) would have been as successful with Bon on vocals or if it is Brian's influence and style that have led to its success. The only album that has more sales worldwide is Thriller. With that in mind, along with ticket sales on this tour, I don't think that Brian is losing any sleep over all this. I love Bon and Brian both - I just wish we could have squeezed a couple more albums out of Bon.
ok here it is bon was better because he died at his peak and never got old. Brian however got old and now the band just sounds old. And the 80's had something to do with the band changing when brian joined.
Bon, Brian, Angus, Malcolm, Cliff, Mark, Phil, Simon or Chris...it all sounds like AC/DC to me; whether it's High Voltage, Fly on the Wall, Black Ice or whatever album one chooses. Yes, there's distinct differences with each line up and each album, but it's all amazing rock and roll in the end whether it's 1975 or 2010.
"People say that brian singing bon songs on this tour is a disgrace" ... uh who is saying that? esau31: That's not quite what Bon said. He was raving over Brian to the boys after seeing him live, but he never said he'd want Brian to replace him, as many people seem to have stretched his words into. DD and MT: Angus and Malcolm didn't "take away Brian's right" though, Brian was just busy for the writing of TRE and didn't care to write lyrics after that. I'm a Brian fan, so needless to say, it's tiring listening to all the Brian bashers out there.
@suicidehummer I've been thinking about why Brian doesn't write lyrics anymore (or at least we're told that he doesn't). If memory serves me right, I remember hearing that Malcolm and Angus wrote the lyrics on TRE because Brian was going through a divorce. I wonder if in actuality he does write the lyrics still but they say he doesn't so that his ex can't squeeze more royalties out of him after the divorce. Just a possibility.
IDK about that. The lyrical quality took a sharp slide after Brian (allegedly) stopped writing so I think it's true. I remember Brian saying he was gonna write BI's lyrics in like 2005 but he obviously never did. What happened? Did Mal and Ang already have lyrics when they first met, or was it some type of miscommunication?
Well, whether Brian wrote them or not is just speculation but I don't really think the lyrics are all that bad on TRE through BI. Songs I personally like the lyrics too off those albums would be Thunderstruck, Fire Your Guns, Money Talks, The Razor's Edge, Are You Ready, Got You By the Balls, Goodbye and Good Riddance To Bad Luck, If You Dare, Big Gun, Hard as a Rock, Cover You in Oil, The Furor, Boogie Man, The Honey Roll, Burnin Alive, Hail Caesar, Caught with Your Pants Down, Whiskey on the Rocks, Ballbreaker, Stiff Upper Lip, Meltdown, House of Jazz, Safe in New York City, Can't Stand Still, Can't Stop Rock and Roll, Satellite Blues, Damned, All Screwed Up, Rock and Roll Train, Skies on Fire, Big Jack, War Machine, Spoilin For a Fight, Wheels, Stormy May Day, She Likes Rock and Roll, Money Made and Black Ice. That's just me though.
Those are all good songs but the lyrics are borderline retarded. For example: Hold Me Back "Got a honky tonk big ball hit to thrill I got a sugar boot money baby that'll kill A honky tonk 15 golden mile Gotta bald headed woman loaded in the town You can get me to the ball man, drivin' in And don't balk the kill, call in the 'ville You gotta map the wrong town, hit the road You got the whole boppa movin' on down the road"
That's why I didn't list "Hold Me Back".
Whatever, it's not exactly like Einstein wrote House Of Jazz. how's that start again? Oh yeah, "Humdinger, Bell ringer, got a slappin' tickler to make you crawl"
I personally think Brian is a great Front man as was Bon. As to Brian's performances of Bon's stuff this tour, I think he sings them better now than he ever has.Shot Down In Flames sounds the best it has with Brian on Vocals,Dog Eat Dog sounds great,Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be, just to name a few. Brian's voice has kinda "grown" into Bon's songs and added his style to them.Wish he'd belt it like he used to and stop that Brendan 'O Brian induced thing he's doing now.He sounds great,but he just doesn't scream enough I agree that Brian's lyrics made better sense,but Mal and Ang's have their moments. All In All I love moments from each line up,only wish they'd play some '81 - '90 era stuff
I dig House of Jazz. Guess you have to live it to understand it.
Sure whatever you say. flick: O'Brien didn't make Brian sing like this and I don't see why people even think he could. This is just what Brian sounds like now. As for why I haven't the slightest clue but you can't just change your voice by sheer force of will. I have read BI reviews where people said O'Brien "thinned out" Brian's voice and it amazes me that they think a producer could make Brian sound this different from SUL (well maybe with effects but we know they don't use effects). Sorry if I'm going off on you here but it bothers me because Brian clearly sounded like this years before he met O'Brien. look at the Classic Rock Cares gigs. Unless you just mean how he's not belting anymore. If that's so, I agree. I wish he would still belt like he used to but I think he just doesn't have the ability anymore.
I am tired of the same show over and over again...mix up some stuff for the love of god
suicidehummer: Oh,no I don't think 'O Brian really forced Brian, Brian's always had that singing voice,it's just 'O Brian more or less...I don't wanna say talked him into it,but I guess convinced,or coached Brian to use that voice more often. (Mutt Lange was known to coach performances out of a group, I'm sure 'O Brian had a certain degree of control.) As to Brian not having the ability to scream anymore,well I think he still has it, Just he doesn't do it anymore due to he's realized his voice can't take it every night of the tour.His way now seems to make his voice last without "blowing out" The Classic Rock Cares videos show he's still got that screaming power.As you know though,he could scream at those gigs because they were just one show here or there so he could go all out,(and sounded absolutely great might I say) That's what I pretty much meant,Brian doesn't belt it like he could,but also,he wouldn't have such a good voice this far in the tour if he had.So it's a hit and miss really,I miss the scream and I love his voice now too.(even if it's a little whiney,lol) But that's just me and my opinion Ohh,and I don't feel like you went off on me,I get what you're saying. I understand coming from someone like you,you're posts on here and youtube are actually interesting to read.I often enjoy looking at someone else's opinions about the band,yours are always some how informational as well as entertaining, Enough gushing now,lol good day to you =)
That's true, he really did scream for CRC. I wish he at least screamed for the DVD. Yeah the whiney-ness bothered me but he's gotten better. Compare any 2008 concert to a more recent one, and you can tell. That's another reason why I don't like BI. He could have screamed; they only did one song per day. But O'Brien convinced him to sing. It works for RNR Dream, but even for the chorus of that song, he needs to scream. Then again, my favorite album is Ballbreaker, so my screaming and belting standards are high, lol.
Ball Breaker is a high bar to compare too,lol I'm thinkin' well,hoping this tour is like an experiment of sorts.Like Brian is trying out just singing instead of screaming like usual.I'm hoping (key word hoping) that they have a mini tour like they did in '03 after Black Ice's tour and the other festivals and stuff they're doing and Brian goes back to normal. Black Ice is the only tour he's really sang like he's doing right now,I'm hoping he misses the old way or something. Idk Just I miss the scream, Black ice's follow better have a better producer, MORE Raw sound I love Powerage's Guitar sound and For Those About To Rock's Drum sound.Black ice's Drum sound is off a little,too loud in the mix
I doubt that.They've never experimented before. If they have, it was during rehearsals. He sounded pretty whiny on the '03 mini tour as well. I just don't think he can handle screaming anymore though. Yeah well we'll never get Powerage's guitar sound again because Angus doesn't have that unique sounding original SG anymore.
Yeah,they'll not re-create that tone again,but they could get close. Let There Be Rock,Powerage,For Those About To Rock the sound of the band on those albums are just so great.I really love Phil's sound on FATR especially in Evil Walks. Also,I was watching Circus Krone and Brian actually sounded almost like he does now,more so than I remember.He sounded great on it though a real good show.
Yeah Phil sounds great on FTATR, but I prefer Ballbreaker because he was back in the band again and trying to upstage Slade. Yeah, that's what I was talking about. I'm thinking maybe he didn't have surgery if he was like a mix of BI and SUL in '03. But I can't see how his voice could get that much better.
I actually don't think he had surgery on his throat,he did have fluid removed from his lungs,but I seriously doubt he had his throat worked on. I'm not saying he didn't,but I 'm not saying he did either. Circus Krone to me kind of links his voice then to now,like you said a mix of BI and SUL. I think his voice is better due to he's not been screaming as much.The break helped,but the break's affect wouldn't have lasted this long,he would be really rough again if he screamed every gig.His singing now isn't as brutal I assume,so he still sounds "fresh" this far into the tour. I am only sayin' what I think,since I don't know enough about vocal's to really say what caused him to get his voice back,well not back,but smooth again,he never lost it.
I'm saying I think he didn't have anything done, because if he did, he would have sounded instantly better, and wouldn't have been somewhere in the middle in '03. I don't think the break made him better, because look how bad he got during the 1991-1995 break. Well he lost his ability to hit the high notes. Now he can hit the high notes but can't scream. Most concert reviewers can't tell the difference between his screaming and singing though so they say he sounds just like '91 but he definitely doesn't.
That's true,much more smooth than '91 Not as much power behind it
Yeah '91 was his peak power-wise, no doubt. You can even hear it in certain bootlegs; he overpowered the guitars, whereas now he's overpowered by them. Here's what I mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-mUFMIHc8g