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Phil Rudd is better than Simon Wright
Who else feels the same way. I think that Phil was a far better drummer than simon wright. Simon played way to fast during live show's. But Phil always stayed on the beat. And never substituted it with speed. I like to hear you opinions on this.
I'm playing drums since I've been 10 years old and since 19 years, I'm playing in an ac/dc tribute band called R.I.P. There are many good drummers like Ian Paice, Lars Ulrich, Dave Weckl, JoJo Mayer and many more. But the one and only drummer, with a perfect and very directly style is Phil Rudd, for me the best drummer of the world and the best for ac/dc. For all drummers out there: try to play the beat so straight as him, and try to play the crash cymbals like him. Simplicity, that's the rule, that's rock n' roll. Forever phil rudd, forever ac/dc!!!
Amazing (but not unsurprising) that the Swiss writes better in English than the American.
Thanks for compliment, I do my best here, but believe me, perhaps I'm the only member with an english dictionary right beside of me.
Hey bouder: I spent some time in Europe and was surprised by how open Europeans are to learning multiple languages. I met many Europeans who spoke and wrote better English than people I grew up with and English wasn't all they were well-trained at: Spanish, German, French and sometimes the dialects native to their tiny little region. Most of the Swiss I met would learn at least 3 or 4 languages. How many do you speak?
Phil Rudd is a great drummer but I prefer Simon Wright. Simon was not only a much, much harder hitter than Phil, but he brought a certain energy to AC/DC's music in the 80's that is sorely missing since Phil returned in my opinion. As far as I'm concerned, AC/DC's loss is Dio's gain.
Just tried to reply your post, and my pc's shutdown! Allright, do it a little bit faster. I can SPEAK German, English, French and a little bit Italian. I can WRITE German, French and some English, that's pretty enough to write you back in this forum.
Simon Wright had a bit of John Bonham in him. He hit the skins hard and he gave the band an intensity the band has not had since. That being said, noone can hit the cymbals quite like Phil.
Phil is 1,000,001x better than Simon is. Simon is a great drummer with Dio and all the other bands he's been in, but he just didn't suit AC/DC. He was good at the songs that he was apart of like: Fly On The Wall, Who Made Who, Heatseeker, etc. but he just couldn't keep up with Phil's playing. He had tempo issues with most of AC/DC's songs and that's what separates the two. If he could keep a slow beat on songs that needed it like Back In Black. It may have sounded better faster, but that is a slow beat which Simon couldn't do.
For me, Simon hit the drums and phil play the drums, that's the difference. Listen to "Down Payment Blues", for me, that's rock n' roll as it's best!
Well the thing about phil is that he knew how to make it sound right. He was on time every time. There will never be a day where he goes off time.
No comparison.......Phil all the way. I agree with RnRDamnation...no one hits the cymbals better than Phil. Here is your answer....watch the Flick Of The Switch rehearsals from Westwood Studios. EVERY fucking time (especially for Guns For Hire), Simon's timing at the start of the song is incorrect as to when to come in. I still think that Simon is a good drummer however.
As a drummer, here's my take: Simon Wright, technically, is a superior drummer. Phil might be a better fit for AC/DC, but he's not the God that many fans make him out to be. Simon didn't really play anything that complicated with AC/DC, but at least he added some variation. He didn't play every single song the same way. Anyways, let's not fool ourselves here, nobody who has ever played for AC/DC is really that good. If you want to hear some good drumming, go listen to Zeppelin, ZZ Top, or Kiss,
And for everyone saying Simon can't play slowly, that's not true. Listen to his work with other bands and you'll see otherwise. Like 'Bird On A Wire' by Rhino Bucket; great groove on that. Plus, I'm willing to bet Simon wasn't the one who decided to play the songs at a faster tempo.
I think bouderbala said it well; Simon hits hard but does not have the groove or style of Phil. As for energy, you're comparing AC/DC with Simon in the '80s to them with Phil from '95-Present? Come on. Not fair at all. Needless to say, the band being 10 years older may have something to do with the loss of energy. Besides, listen to Phil's intro on HAAR and tell me he doesn't beat those drums like a caveman! Big-Gun: Sure, Phil is overrated by some fans but he is a great drummer nonetheless. And Simon not playing every song the same way was the problem; he was inconsistent. How can you say nobody that's every played for AC/DC was a good drummer? Slade and Rudd are excellent drummers. And I really don't think Kiss is anything special drum-wise. Nobody "decided" to play the songs faster, it's something that a lot of drummers do accidentally live.
It's clear that Phil IS AC/DC. As soon as he left they were looking for a substitute of his style. The way i look at it is after him there was Simon Rudd then Chris Rudd. I've also been a drummer since the early 90's, and Phil was simply born for this band. They were all great drummers, i love listening to the live shows where Simon is playing, i think they are better than when Chris slade was there, he's the one who played the songs way too fast. It all depends on the mood, if you listen to some of the 81-82 gigs Phil played really fast sometimes, way more that he does now. Has anyone noticed during the Black Ice tour how Phil always misses some hi-hat beats? I noticed by watching him very closely and sometimes he stretches his left arm i believe as if he might have a physical problem or something? That never happened before this tour i was just wondering why he does this... But i won't ask him he might punch me in the face haha!
Ya, when I watch AC/DC with Simon on drums, Simon seems stiff unlike Phil who plays fluidly. Plus I think Simon hits the hi-hat too many times inbetween snares. @Dean, Ya i've noticed that too. I think it might have to do with his glasses because when i've watched videos from this tour, Phil's always reaching for his face to adjust something.
Dean: Simon maybe, but Chris definitely wasn't trying to sound like Phil, which is probably why he was better suited to them than Simon.
I think, every drummer, who made it with AC/DC, was a good drummer. Listen to "Let there be rock", original studio version: Phil play the hi-hats with 16/4 strokes, today he plays "only" 8/4. Look at Chris Slade, Live at Donnington, he plays "Fire your guns", "Heatseeker" and "Let there be rock" in an abnormal speed with 16/4 strokes. Watch Simon's "Messin' with the Kid", he grooves perfectly and the whole album "FOTS" is very good - heavy - drumming! My personal ranking is: 1st, Phil (He's one with the band), 2nd Simon and 3rd Chris. And if dreams will come true: For one evening, I would be the drummer for ac/dc!!!
bouderbala: im sure any drummer who loves AC/DC like us, would love to be the drummer for AC/DC for one night.
bouderbala, a point well made bud, any drummer who plays for DC is a good drummer and what is best for them at the time, comparing them is like comparing vanilla to chocolate ice cream in my opinion, but there ya go, just my opinion, Rudd grew up with them Slade is a vastly experienced drummer (look at his c.v.) Wright was/is young,powerful and possibly not as experienced in the nuances of drumming but look a t his c.v. before he joined,the guy was just a youngster and at the time was a better option than a strung out Phil Rudd!! not a drummer myself, but I do try to appreciate what each brings to the party peace Dave
Your words out of my mouth, but you mean with c.v.?
Sorry, it's late, forget to ask "what" you mean with c.v.
@Bouderbala, he grooves perfectly and the whole album "FOTS" is very good - heavy - drumming! Sorry bud.......Simon is not on FOTS. Phil is on FOTS and also added session drummers. Simon was on the FOTS tour though.
Yeah that's Phil's on Flick Of The Switch,and also None of the session drumming was used on the final album was it,cause I thought it was all Phil (correct me if I'm wrong) I think Simon was great,on his songs any ways Fly On The Wall,Who Made Who, and Blow Up Your Video were great,(to me) Not really a fan of him doing Phil's dongs though,he was Ok at them
Yes phils parts were the ones used on the Flick of the Swithch album. A session drummer was brought in to rerecord the parts that phil had made (a bad choice on their part). But they then ended up with using phils parts. Which is a good thing.
What a fuck I wrote here, im so sorry, dudes. Of course, Phil play the drums on "FOTS". Maybe, got one or two beers too much in my head when i was write the message, what a shame!!! Sorry guys.
I love Simon!! But Rudd is family!! I love Fly on the Wall and the drum arrangements are awesome!!! Wether it was Malcolm or Simon I don't know maybe I should listen to some more DIO records. Chris Slade is awesome too. Thunderstruck maybe my favorite song of the band. Which really blows my mind to say. Being a die hard Bon fan (1979 Cleveland show!!!) Live Wire (live versions only) Maybe my Favorite. Hell, There are too many I LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!