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On Carlos Santana's facebook page there is a short "behind the scenes" video with Nas regarding Back In Black. I would post the video here but it's uploaded directly to facebook so there's not an external link from youtube of anything. Just thought I'd point it out
Took a look, and Nas is slurring so much I can't even make out what he says except "you know man?" I'm going to get the album today and I look forward to hearing it, however I think someone dropped the ball when it came to covering BIB. Maybe Carlos? Maybe whoever thought of Nas as a guest artist on this one? However I still respect Carlos as a musician. I'll be paying more attention to the guitar work on this cut anyway. It will be interesting to hear what the band thinks of this take, if they do comment.
here's the video, uploaded by me ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYamDlY8EqE
Here's a link to the full song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v13kOqXYrsE&feature=fvwk Carlos Santana is a good musician, but I feel this version takes all the soul out of the song. It sounds more metal rap than rock rap.
2 things. First whoever plays BiB with a crybaby pedal deserves to be shot.And of course many pedaling like this is done to cover weaknesses on the guitarist.I don't mean anything for Carlos cuz (and take it however you like) i don't give a f%ck about his music. Second we have to do a group therapy here to convince people NOT to buy cd's(sorry nick of time but you gave me the motivation).What's wrong with you people? In Athens we got a major line of stores of cd selling and now whenever i pass by it proly be 5-10 people combined in 4 stores. Please (US people especially) extend your middle finger to the record companies.It's easy.Just try to block your other four fingers with your other hand and lift the one that is free....See?That is the famous "finger".Now all together.1-2-3, extend, 1-2-3 extend.Bravo!Now go to maslebucks fuflebucks moshmart however they are called and do the exercise holding an mp3,wav,flac,whatever player on your other arm. F&CK RECORD COMPANIES!!!
I get what your saying Sapator. Some people like their music digitally, however I like the packaging along with the cd myself. Gives me something to hold and explore. Plus I usually find odd bits in certain liner notes that I find interesting. But it has come to a point in musical history where record companies are sucking the life out of good bands by reaking havoc on the prices of albums. The cd was decently priced with a DVD included for $17 total. I'd rather pay that then for say a cd that's 24 or 30 bux. And I'd no way in heck pay $40 plus dollars for a DVD like I've seen with some Metallica dvds [$45-60 for a single dvd]. I'm a conscious buyer aware of prices when I buy albums. I make sure I get them as cheap as possible. I've come along way from my younger teens when I'd pay about anything without being conscious of prices. Upon hearing the track again, it's the lowest point on the album by far. Nas sucks the air out of it. Carlos' take is ok but it's not, and will not compete with AC/DC's original. That will always rein supreme. His take is ok, but I would have loved to be a fly on the wall [pun intended] during that conversation. I just want to see who thought of the idea and to bring Nas in. I would have said NO waving a red flag that it would not work.
I agree is some extend on what you say.The post was not for you anyhow but gave me the motivation. On what i don't agree is the whole "i want to explore the cover",etc. This is truly and urban legend, especially for DC.My first experience with them was the Germany cd's.They got absolutely nothing more than the cover and the cd.Well maybe if we were lucky we could have some lyrics or even a fake dollar,whatever. Ok they got nothing but i remember getting them for 3000 drachmas, that is, let me see that...OMG!8,8 Euros, OMG 11 US$ .And that with a BRAND NEW CD and WITHOUT mp3's available(well in a poor quality and extend).So let me get the receipt for my last ac/dc album i bought and the last i will ever buy...16.50Euros, double the price.And have in mind we have probably the lowest prices on all Europe on cd's in Greece.So now they even gave us a 10 page booklet.Hooray!! And this goes on with the games.I remember i bought Shinobi for 3000 drachmas as well.A new pc game now is at least 30 Euros.What's that?They got better graphs and animations and are better?Ye well keep dreaming, the action and gameplay on Shinobi and the likes will never be replicated again from poor old "i wanna be mario land with a black clock" newer games.Also i we usually got a poster a booklet, free note book,coupons.Now we got....The DVD. In Greece the local companies were raising the prices on the mp3 battle.Raising and raising and raising.....So they got the famous Greek finger with double somersault ( i will saw you sometime).So they ended up selling the cd's now for 10Euros and noone buys them.Well correction.We have some Greek malakes, aka pigs with 4 hands, that they may buy something but they are getting exterminated slowly. Nick of time.17$ for cd+ Dvd is a good price but, NOTHING, for cd + dvd is even better.The cover story, well i could print the cover for 0,5 Euros for the ink drops on my printer.So got the same with 16.50 profit. Ok i don't say support piracy etc etc.I say SUPPORT FRIKING PIRACY AND FLUCK THE RECORD COMPANIES AND OF COURSE EA SPORTS and the likes. Now that cannot be done in USA because you have the "system".Here we may have the economic crisis,we may have unemployment, we may well have no food to eat(ok,i overdid it) but we can COPY WHATEVER WE WANT WHENEVER WE WANT!Hell i can go to a microsoft office and get a copy!!!! So support piracy and come to Greek islands to get charged 15Euros for a Greek salad and Greeks get charged with 6Euros...Ooopp i said too much :)
Also Nate's lawsuit,here would be a joke to laugh when we are frustrated.
We all get our music one way or another whichever suits our budget. It's all good. The cover album from Carlos isn't really great but not horrible. Santana kinda dropped the ball on this one, but some songs I think are good. He almost does to much to certain songs and doesn't let them breathe. None the less these are his interpretations. I've heard better cover albums like Garage Inc from Metallica. However as long as these songs reach another generation, that'd be great considering what's happening now with the music industry.
Ok.I agree that each on to it's likes. If someone wants to buy a cd and thinks he got screwed when listening to it then fine. But at least everyone must first listen to a free mp3 and pay if the material is really worth paying for. P.E. I'm a huge fan of (the late) Running Wild.I got all the albums(yes i buy something that in my opinion is worth buying so i can support smaller bands.Bigger bands can kiss my a$$ + there were no mp3s in such extend back at the old days) except the last, because i listened to it on mp3 and it wasn't worth the $$, so because of me Running Wild are now called it quits :P
The idea of buying a CD so that you have the cover art to hold in your hands sounds maturbatory. As if, "Well, if I can't hold it in my hands, how can I flip through the pages like an excited 13 year old and get an erection!" I understood the thrill of flipping through pages to look at the cover art and read the lyrics, but with AC/DC it is, and almost always has been (excepting Ballbreaker, where the lyrics were actually good and the artwork was exceptional), completely irrelevant. And what with it being 2010 and all, it doesn't really matter to me whether I view the artwork in a cover booklet or by flipping through images on my computer. BTW, keep your eye on Apple and iTunes. It's likely they will begin releasing complete album packages with Artwork for the iPad and probably the iPhone sometime in the future. When that happens, expect AC/DC to sign on to the Steve Jobs money train and have all their brilliant artwork displayed with the complete album.
As for Nas rapping the verses to Back in Black over a slightly Latinized EE-DD-AA riff while Janelle Monae belts out the chorus, I have no problem with it at all and I think that those who do should probably take a look at themselves and get over any lingering racist attitudes they may have towards rap and/or latino culture. This is true artistry! This is a reimagining of a great song through the artistic brilliance of Carlos Santana! This type of reinterpretation of a song is not new - Bob Dylan does it every tour! Even Madonna reworks some of her songs every time she hits the road! This takes true balls and creativity! If you're really offended by this, imagine how offended you must have been by Slash's reworking of Paradise City with Cypress Hill and Fergie. Basically the same idea as Santana's interpretation, except Slash got there first:
Everyone here should only buy music in physical format. Itunes is for idiots. If you buy a mp3 you own nothing. When you buy music in physical formats you'll own a piece of art. When cd packages are done correctly they are awesome. Just bought The Runaways Mercury Albums Collection which is probably the greatest cd packaging i've ever seen. In addition mp3's can never achieve the sound ofa well produced CD. Vinyl is even better. So if you're downloading music fom internet, thanks for being a part of destroying something that music listeners have always loved. BTW Slash's version of Paradise City is great. Fergie's vocals are brilliant.
olavi: When I buy a CD, I'm buying a piece of plastic that cost less than 50 cents to make but which sells for 10-20 dollars or more. The exception to the rule may be that when I buy a Pink Floyd (or Roger Waters or David Gilmour) CD, I actually am buying art (albeit mass produced) in both musical and visual formats. As for sound quality, you're not missing that much with 320 kbps and it won't be long before we can purchase (or download) lossless digital files and play them on an mp3 player. And if you really have that much of a problem with your mp3 player, plug it into a worthwhile entertainment unit (the Bose SoundDock, for example), crank it up loud and tell me if you really notice that much of a difference in sound quality.
Most cd's arent just plastice cases these days. Today I got The Doors Live In Boston 3CD in mail and I was actually surprised how good the package looked. What's the point downloading music files, if you can get the CD for about the same price? Piracy is wrong! Remember to support the artist. One thing I don't understand is, if you buy a brand new CD for 15$ how can that be too much? Most cd's these days are under 10$. If you compare vinyl to mp3's the difference in sound quality is massive. If you compare cd's to mp3's the difference isn't as massive, but it's still there.
"Piracy is wrong! Remember to support the artist." At what point is iTunes piracy?
What's the point downloading music files, if you can get the CD for about the same price? I download for free. Piracy is wrong! Remember to support the artist. At what department of Sony did you say you are working? Artists get their bucks from touring.If they cannot tour then they are useless peace of s$its.Piracy is the finger to greedy arsholes that produce something with 1$ and sell it for 20. SO SUPPORT PIRACY DON'T BE A SHEEP! And Flac is lossless format so there you have it.I'm amazed you are from Finland, or is it Sweden that has the great piratebay?Also Metalica$$ after the anal they got from their fans they said they downloaded mp3's of their music.People WAKE UP!They are screwing you over you say, may i have another?OMG!
Sap: "Artists get their bucks from touring" Not necessarily, I know Queen NEVER made any profit from touring because all the money they made went back into the next tour they did. The only tour they made a profit from was their last. Just putting that out there... ;)
If back then mp3's were available believe me they would have tried to made profit. Also you're fuck#d here :P In a friendly sense because i have a friend that is a Queen maniac and if i remember tomorrow i will ask if what you say is valid.Which,let's face it, is not true because tour creation < tour profits for big groups.
"If back then mp3's were available believe me they would have tried to made profit." They probably would have... they are a big sell-out now, have you seen that new "Absolute Greatest" boxset they released? It's got all their hits that they've released about 50 times already. Bohemian Rhapsody etc... I'm sure your friend will agree with me, because if he's a Queen maniac he would have seen the interview where Brian May says that. I'll try to find that interview for you :)
Saw my friend and forgot it(classic sapator). Listen i don't think Queen are sell outs because there is no Queen. But again i wouldn't believe what Brian may says. Hey listen can you do me a favor.I have seen a Brian May photo 8-10 years ago on a book that he is wearing an AC/DC T-shirt. My friend, if i remember correctly, told me he did that to piss Freddy of because he hated AC/DC. Do you know the whereabouts of that picture?
I've never even seen or heard about that picture, sorry. I would like to see it too.
It was on a queen book i saw but i cannot remember the name after all these years.But it exists 100%