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Whole lotta rosie
I wondered if anyone knew if there was a video of Whole lotta Rosie , from the live album If you want blood, with the "Angus, Angus" intro. I'm told the recording is from the Apollo Glasgow but it doesnt seem to be on the videos available from that show. Any ideas Cheers
I've been on a quest for the whole gig either audio or visual for the last god knows how long and have come to a few conclusions namely, the version of 'WLR' wasn't recorded at the Apollo, the sound mix is completely different from most of 'IYWB' and the vocals sound like they were done in a studio. Either that or it's had the most 'cosmetic surgery' done post recording. The 'Angus,Angus' chants are dubbed into the music as well. 100% on that one. Never heard any other mix of 'IYWB' save the 6 or 7 songs from Rage T.V.'s broadcast but the search goes on man........
I don't think it exists (as in, in circulation), the best bet would be to buy the place next to Alberts Studios and dig a tunnel through to the vaults.
Yeah, cause someone needs to steal the 'Powerage' masters and mix it properly.
Thanks for the info guys, if the "angus , angus" is dubbed over , the maybe it comes from Glasgow after all, I notice on the footage from the show where they are wearing the Scottish footy kits, just before they launch into "fling thing" the crowd are chanting "angus angus". I guess this footage must be from a second show they played in Glasgow????
as far as i know from the dvd family jewels...it was recorded april 30 1978 and it was when they did the encore rocker w/ fling thing to start it off. it might be the only time everybody in the band wore the same outfit correct me if i'm wrong. that was cool and of course bon could'nt keep his shirt on long. ha ha
All the available footage is from the April gig, Spen. I think the cheering may be dubbed in from the April show, but don't think 'Rosie' is. They pro-recorded a few shows from various countries on that tour, so 'WLR' coulda been done anywhere. It just doesn't sound like the Apollo gig. The drums sound completely different for a start. Also, us fans didn't start chanting "Angus.." at the start of the song 'til way after 'IYWB' was released months later. It was more than likely that the L.P. kick started it....Dare say George Young's deft studio touch helped make yet another legend...
the full apollo show was recorded and belongs to one malcolm young! rosie was recorded from the glasgow show and the angus chants were from that actual concert and that is fact. but like the full album it has been enhanced in the studio hail hail..............davidceltic
I think the whole thing might not be "enhanced" as in patched, but rather just mixed and eq'd by Vanda and Young. BUT what I really find odd, on Family Jewels, during Fling Thing and Rocker it appears as though Angus's guitar ain't even plugged in to the wireless pack. Anyone know about that?
I'd have thought the rights would have belonged to Alberts, as most signed artists' usually transfer copyright for purposes of distribution, royalties etc. That's a grey area though... I'm in agreement with you that the chants of "Angus" were recorded from the Apollo, and that 'WLR' was played and recorded at that gig too, just not the version on 'IYWB' :-)
Well, the live album version of Back In Black is the exact same version that's on Live At Donington, don't believe me, watch epic's DVD version with some headphones going and the Live album playing. Oddly enough, Shoot To Thrill on the Live album is from the original Donington (ie, not patched before the breakdown).
I noticed that too....the vhs version of Donington and the epic version are not the same, on Shoot to trill. what gives?? also on whole lotta rosie...angus' guitar shorts out on the vhs but not the dvd. anyone else noticed this?? also on all the live video's (ltbr,no bull,) angus has to change guitars durning at least one song and mal takes over until he gets a dif guitar?
Let There Be Rock The Movie's version of Whole Lotta Rosie is cool cause Angus breaks a string, keeps going with five strings, then gets an out of tune guitar and no strap, and keeps on rocking. How much better could LTBR The Movie get, well, except for maybe ADDING TNT TO IT!
But the TNT from LTBR the Movie and Golder's Green Hippodrome are very, very similar. A) They both start with Angus coming back on stage playing a solo... B) Followed by the rest of the band... C) and saddly the sound guy screwed up and the backing vocals ain't able to be heard.
sounds like bon realizes this anyway yet keeps on singing as if hes kinda laughin about it. and what a lame crowd (except the guy dressed like angus) even bon saw him and gave him an evil smile. (or did I only see this??)
Well, the guy they show at the beginning of T.N.T. is pretty good, he's going like, chh, chh, CHH, chchchch but with light headbangs. Then again he could've been stoned.
what about when angus went into the crowd during "rocker" and they were like "what the fuck" like what's going on. well i guess they were just introduced to the power of the band. the guy who introed the show was probly not into the band as well "I don't know if that's part of the sound" get off the stage you geek!!
Oddly, that was the same guy who can be credited for "Thank you Peter!" Back to Glasgow 78, on Rocker, it appears as though Angus's guitar ain't plugged in, care to comment?
Yea I noticed after some people on youtube saw it and were asking the same question. since I have no Idea on the subject, i was wondering if could have been dubbed from another show. the song rocker you know?? even on let there be rock...sometimes bons mouth and what we hear are a little off...i.e. girls got rhythm. I think that movie was shot the same day with two shows. in other words the ealier show probly was taped as well as the evening show. any other comments people!?
Well there is a bootleg of the early show, I'd have to wait until I get home to listen to it though, seeing as I'm at school right now, on a school computer, with no access to my bootlegs.
If you watch the movie again (like why not..it rocks) the long view from the back...cliff has a dif shirt, angus has a dif guitar, and bons got new jeans on. this is during the last song let there be rock. (he ripped his paints during hell ain't a ba place to be) so two diffrent show were taped. most concert dvds (not all) sometimes are filmed over two days to get it right. which i don't like cuz one shot they might have one guitar and the next its a dif guitar and it's the same song (an ealier Rush concert did the same thing-A show of hands)
HA HA BONNY RIPPED HIS PANTS lol The reason Angus got a new guitar for that song is because either the current guitar he used was out of tune. Or the neck was warped. Or he just wanted a change.
that happened during "whole lotta rosie" then he got the black and white gibson for the rest of that concert. but if you look at the last song (ltbr) at the start its a long shot from the back and angus has the red gibson, when it cuts to a camera closer to the stage, he has the black n white gibson. he couldn't have gotten a new guitar that fast. I've watched it many times. so I still beleive this was a splice from two shows at that venue.
Well, the show obviously is edited, with Walk All Over You fading oddly.
Why did they do that anyway? Walk All Over You rocks! Why fade anything?
Anyway back to Whole lotta Rosie , would it be a sin for one of you to mix the IYWB whole lotta rosie intro into a whole lotta rosie video , "Let There Be Rock " would be OK , but what would be really cool would be Essex University. Can you imagine it Bon says " the biggest fattest woman thet ever faunicated..... riff starts .. crowd starts chanting Angus Angus . I know its a fake , but dont you all think it would be great to just see it. Can't even afford to feed my cat Spen
Rock Goes To College and Rock Masters in my opinion have the worst crowds ever. In Rock Goes To College half of the crowd ain't even looking at the stage, some even look back INTO the cameras and wave, smile, or even jump. And in Rock Masters/Golders Green 77, the crowd doesn't even really react to Angus being in the crowd, come on, the guy with the Angus suit on is really the best one in the crowd, heck, he even goes and stands around Angus when he's above the clock.
I said that before also, did anyone in the crowd even know who AC/DC was and who angus was?? just that one guy in the angus suit had a clue!! if that were today, they would have to have security escort angus around!!
I believe I heard that AC/DC was brought on as a last minute replacement band when Alex Harvey cancelled. This would explain the lack of interest for the most part and having the majority of the audience sitting on their hands. I could be way off though, I honestly can't remember where I heard that or if I just made it up.
No, you're spot on, AC/DC brought in at the last minute. I think many of the crowd would have turned up to RGTC when they heard it was gonna be filmed, also it was a student union gig probably only open to students and whoever the students signed in as friends. The same thing happened with a Soundgarden gig in Glasgow, only students and people who were signed in by students on a first-come-first-serve basis got to see them. Check the crowd at the Apollo 6 months earlier....plenty noise in Scotland!!!! Now if you want a dying crowd, listen to the Nashville Record Bar set.
Nate, Watch the Peter Drummond intro on the Hippodrome DVD I traded to you. Later, at the beginning of Rocker Bon says the band will play at Great Yarmouth on Thursday night where they were originally booked for Oct. 27. Also from what I have read agrees with davidceltic earlier in this thread that the entire Glasgow show was filmed. They also did Gimme a Bullet during the sound check. Wouldn't we all want to hear that one?
calli, the Nashville record bar set is a bunch of execs, what else do you expect, hell, listening to Bon's intro is enough of an idea. But as for Glasgow, does anyone have a full audio recording of that show, in a unedited format, with the songs in the right order and everything like that?
Yeah, I think he scared them away. Hilarious how the band just keep playing harder and harder tho. The versions of 'Rosie' and 'Rocker' are smashed out. Atlantic always did have no clue what to do with them, they weren't exactly Journey/ REO Speedwagon or that kind of bedwetter rock, so I didn't expect their suits to understand them.
"" dailydoseofacdc said Nate Watch the Peter Drummond intro on the Hippodrome DVD I traded to you. Later, at the beginning of Rocker Bon says the band will play at Great Yarmouth on Thursday night where they were originally booked for Oct. 27."" I live 2 miles from Great Yarmouth, AC/DC were due to play at a night club called Tiffanys( its was tiny teeny bop club where anyone over 18 looked ancient) they cancelled the show and re-scheduled for the following week. I dont know anyone who went to this show, but the previous year they played Vauxhall Caravan Park here in Great Yarmouth and I know several people who went to this gig, they all say it was awsome. I dont think there are any recording around but maybe you can put me straight if there are? For us in Great Yarmouth , where no bands ever come to anymore, it gives us great pride to be imortalised by Bon.
I bet that must have made you smile hearing Bon Scott say "To all the people in Great Yarmouth..." I'd like to know something though, does a full length, uniterrupted audio recording of Glasgow 78 exist?
Does anybody know why angus did change guitars in Whole Lotta Rosie ? i never saw a string break but the guitar did seem out of tune. And yes if you listen very carefuly in Whole Lotta Rosie the Crowd Goes nuts just before the band get into the main riff but after bon finishes measuring rosie. and if you listen carefuly after ACDC finish the Apollo gig rocker they chat angus angus then cheer :S
out of tune. and the new one as well but he tunes it quick then the rodie puts on the strap for him (in the movie)
Trav, if the Apollo gig was recorded in full, most likely, then you're hearing the most you'll hear from both IYWB and the Rage TV stuff unless someone pulls the proverbial rabbit from the (Alberts) hat. The Paris gig Rosie, it sounds like his actual guitar just dies sound wise, the replacement doesn't sound much better either (as well as being stunningly out of tune, er....nice job guitar tech). In my humble opinion the sound from the Paris gig is pretty dismal, more the venue than band tho, and I would have rather seen the Apollo stuff given the treatment it thoroughly deserves and released officially. Rant.
Yeah, the LTBR gig is horrible sound wise, Mobile One, the same crew that recorded For Those About To Rock the studio album in Paris, oddly couldn't get the right settings for Let There Be Rock the Movie in Paris. Odd similarities between Bon and Brian now ain't it.
It would be a treat to have IYWB on dvd...that gig was magic!!! LTBR was in your words horrible sounding but hey this was 1980 in paris and if it were today, it would sound better. and they would take better care of the masters.
Yeah well, that's true, just think of the difference between the way Highway To Hell and Back In Black sound, and that's just one year.
I wish they could have mutt produce for a lifetime. maybe fly on the wall would have been better in the outside world. beside us fans.
Well, AC/DC did do good on Flick Of The Switch, but I guess when they did Fly On The Wall they just weren't as focused, Simon Wright said in an iterview that it took two weeks to record that album.
And it shows. The sound isn't even as good as shit.
The reason the LTBR VHS has different shows cut into it was because the tapes had been damaged or filming of that particular part was stopped because new film needed to be inserted into the camera. My guess on Walk All Over You is the original tape was damaged and TNT sadly wasn't even filmed because the director didn't like th song. What an arse. But at least we have a full audio recording of that show, but sadly no full video version exists. It talks about the LTBR movie for like 2 pages in Maximun Rock n Roll.
Yeah, the guy could have said he ran out of tape rather than say ouright that he didn't like the song. That probably didn't do much for his credibility coming out with that. He's also kinda robbed the fans in a way, I suppose. I was sure I read something about a director's cut of LTBR being proposed a while back but this seems to have put the brakes on the matter. Oh well.
The BBC Crown Jewels ends tnt too soon on vh1. If you want the full version go to tedo3@rochester.rr.com and you can buy acdc-bon scott live 77' and 78' that has 3 shows and one of those is the one on crown jewels tnt full version with some add extras worth the money 7.99 no shipping cost. he also has let there be rock the movie. wes
HEY CALLI FL ON TW KICKS ASS . You made me say a bad word for the first time dont do that any more.
I should know by now everybody knows already about everything thats out on AC/DC. Iam talking about the last post I made MAY 16th on this site. And as far as saying bad words "FLY ON THE WALL" KICKS A DOUBLE ASS and knock your nuts thru your ASS. Shake Your Foundations thru the back doors of hell baby.
I must say I have seen and heard rock groups do this song many times but its hard to beat the original. only AC/DC can do this one right. Its like people trying to do Come Together by the BEATLES you cant out do the original version from ABBY ROAD. period.
P.S thats ABBEY ROAD RRRRRROOOOOOOOCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKK NNNNNNNNNNNN RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WWWWWWWWWWWIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN DIE
Thats Rock "N "Roll will never DIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!